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Feb. 29, 2024
John Tesh Explores: Lifesaving Fiber, Catching Laziness, The Rise of Trade Schools, Winning with Small Steps, and Gorillas' TikTok Dilemma
In this episode, unlock the secrets to longevity with a deep dive into the world of dietary fiber as we examine groundbreaking research from the MD Anderson Cancer Center. Discover how boosting your fiber intake could be the game-changer in cancer treatment efficacy and overall mortality reduction.
The educational landscape is rapidly transforming, and community colleges and trade schools are booming. We navigate the evolving definition of success in a job market where practical skills reign.
Finally, we’ll give you some ‘conversation starters’ about the Gorillas at the Toronto Zoo and how they face the perils of screen exposure at visitors' hands. Also, we’ll tell you about the crazy, cutting-edge farming methods with drones (dressed up like raptors) playing the role of high-tech scarecrows.
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(00:02) The Power of Fiber and Positivity
(08:27) Influence and Motivation in Education
(16:16) Animals and Birds
(27:44) Active Lifestyle Podcast Promotion
Transcript
00:02 - Speaker 1
Welcome to the John Tesh podcast featuring Mr Gib Gerard, the ultimate wingman.
00:07 - Speaker 2
Ayo.
00:08 - Speaker 1
And please remember whenever you want to get in touch with us, if you want to take my piano course or get enrolled in our coaching program, it's all waiting for you on our website, https://tesh.com. We want to get right into some of the latest longevity advice. Gib, that is, as always, right. It's ridiculously simple. New research from the MD Kent Anderson Cancer Center very familiar with that place has found that getting plenty of— A little too familiar.
00:31 - Speaker 2
There you go there you go Uh-huh.
00:34 - Speaker 1
It has found that getting plenty of fiber in our diet will lower our mortality rate. So follow me here. It turns out eating vegetables, fruits, whole grains, any good fiber reduces the risk of developing diabetes, heart disease and arthritis. And the study found that cancer patients eating a high fiber diet were five times more likely to respond to immunotherapy.
00:55
And the University of Michigan says healthy gut bacteria, that's the tipping point between health and disease and scientists say it all comes down to how fiber influences our gut health and helps feed that healthy bacteria we need. And you know I had a call with my oncologist, dr Christopher Logathetus, and he was telling Connie and I that most of the studies they're doing right now is how you can use the microbiome and the gut right to actually cure diseases.
01:24 - Speaker 2
It's, you know well, look, it's your body's balance of so many things, including your depression, by the way, A good microbiome.
01:32 - Speaker 1
My depression, or everybody's depression, one's depression? Sorry, I was using the club wheel. I mean, I guess I'm every now and then.
01:39 - Speaker 2
But including depression, because the microbiome is actually one of the major producers of serotonin. So, in addition to all of these other health benefits, when it comes to overall mortality you're also just going to feel better, your brain is going to be working better if you do this properly. So again, I don't know if this is a chicken or egg thing, you know, because usually people who are eating vegetables and eating well, they're doing better overall. But this could be just why the fiber, the vegetables and the fruit and the fiber are keeping your gut healthy, giving you the right microbiome you need. Even though the fiber itself does not grow the bacteria, it is the lattice work on which the good bacteria does grow. So you'll be better at absorbing nutrients, better at breaking down the food, even on your cheat day, if you're the rock right and you eat that giant thing of French toast on Sundays.
02:31
When you have that French toast you're going to metabolize it better because your microbiome is going to.
02:35 - Speaker 1
Yeah, let me do a thing on mice here, and then I want to talk about prebiotics and probiotics, because I know you've studied this as well. So in the study from Michigan the scientists, they put mice on a low fiber diet. We're always dealing with the mice right Because they're a lot like us, especially their brains.
02:53 - Speaker 2
Yeah, they work their way up. Mice have certain characteristics that are good for testing before we get to humans.
03:00 - Speaker 1
And within just a couple of days, on a low fiber diet. This is the mice now. The mice developed chronic inflammation in their intestines and then, when the mice were put on a high fiber diet, their inflammation went back to normal, but apparently they had a lot of gas. I'm just kidding. I mean I made that part up.
03:16 - Speaker 2
When you first start fiber. If you're in a really low fiber processed food diet right now, when you first start, you will notice we'll call it gastric distress you will have, there will be an adaptation period, but on the other side of it you will be a lot healthier and a lot happier. You just have to get to the other side of that initial gastric distress right. If your body is used to cheeseburgers and all of a sudden you're having more zucchini, you're not going. There's going to be a. There's going to be a period of time where you adjust.
03:45 - Speaker 1
See, I wouldn't go from cheeseburgers to zucchini, I don't know, it's something else, apples maybe.
03:50 - Speaker 2
Okay, well, whatever, when you go from cheeseburgers to green leafy vegetables from a high fat processed food diet to green leafy vegetables. There is a period of adjustment.
04:01 - Speaker 1
So I mean bottom lining this from again from the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and if you've ever heard about this place or been it's cancer research city, I mean that's all they do is study cancer there. It's a cancer research university and what they're basically saying is that fiber really does help us, protect us and fight against cancer. Yeah, it also keeps the stuff from growing in you, like the polyps that turn into. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
04:27 - Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:27 - Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never done a lifestyle.
04:50 - Speaker 2
There's a world of easy sense that it اسан의.
05:01 - Speaker 1
We're in cheater die. We're not really productive, but great is. Yeah, I know, and you're not even looking at the stuff that's on my Kindle on my phone.
05:08
Yeah, I accidentally ordered the hard copy. Push the wrong button. Okay, here's what you do for more motivation and productivity. Every day, you commit to writing down your small wins, even if it's just one. So listen to this from the Harvard Business School. They say taking note of what you've accomplished will boost your confidence, increase motivation and boost your productivity all the things I just mentioned. And studies do show we tend to hang on to bad experiences longer than the good ones, even relationships. By the way, writing down something positive, though, especially by hand, it helps you remember. It's a lot to unpack here, gib. You can write it in a journal, you can write it on your phone, or even a text conversation with a friend. It all works. The study found that the more frequently listen, the more frequently people experience the sense of progress by writing down a small win, the more likely they were to be creatively productive in the long run. I mean, it really is.
06:04
It's the simple things right, but they did so much study, so many studies on this.
06:07 - Speaker 2
This is why I mean speaking of productivity books. This is why the making the bed thing works. This is why journaling is so popular and is such a good way of changing the way that your brain operates. Look, the smarter you are, the more ruminative you are, meaning the more you think about things over and over again, and the more likely you are to be ruminative, the more likely you are to think about the negative, like you were talking about. And when you think about the negative, you will.
06:33
You cannot help but manifest negative in your life, and that's not like woo spirituality. I just mean the more you're thinking negative thoughts, the more you will interact with people in a negative way and the more negativity will be in your life. It'll just be like that. If you can start to just take any win, any positive thing, and build on that, you will be happier. When you are happier, you will have more positive things happen and more people will interact with you in a positive way. And that's not even the woo spirituality side of things. That's just the facts of how interpersonal relationships work. So the best thing you can do for yourself in order to do that is to engage more of your brain by writing it out. And for me, when I physically write something, I use so much more of my brain. When I say physically write, I don't mean, I mean I get a pen and a piece of paper.
07:23
And I have this. We've interviewed him before. Michael Hyatt, I have this planner. It is it's quarterly, so it's annoying like it's annoying how many you have to buy in a year. But this planner, it has pages where at the end of every day every day is two pages long and at the end of the day you write something down a big win for the day and you can write out three wins. And at the end of every week you write out three wins for the week. It gets you thinking about accomplishing even the smallest thing. It doesn't have to be. You know I successfully completed the first open heart transplant from a fetal pig into a human. That doesn't have to be that. It can be something simple, as I had a great interaction with my grandmother today on the phone.
08:08
Whatever that is it's just one positive thing. It will manifest itself into the rest of your life.
08:13 - Speaker 1
It's great Again, just reviewing. If you want to increase your motivation, productivity, I would say even happiness, based on what Gibba's saying here, you just every day commit to writing down your small wins, even if it's just one. Ok, as promised. Let's pose this question, is it? I love this kind of stuff.
08:32
Is it possible to catch laziness from another person? So, according to the National Institutes of Health, the answer is a big yes. For example, let's say you and your partner. Yeah, a simple example you plan to do your chores first thing on Saturday so you can enjoy the rest of your weekend. But if one of you sits down for coffee and says, ah, I just don't feel like doing anything today, the other one is, according to this study, likely to agree. The researchers say this is partly about wanting to fit in and partly about social influence bias quote unquote where people believe their attitudes and opinions should be similar to those of other people. The good news is here it is we can also be energized by another person's behavior, and we've seen this just when you and I go to the gym. I work out longer 100%.
09:17 - Speaker 2
If you work out with a buddy who is motivated to work out, you're going to work out harder and it will beget itself. So if you have that person that you both you decide you want to be motivated, together you can motivate each other. What's really annoying about this is that the old motherly adage you show me who your friends are, and I'll show you who you are.
09:38 - Speaker 1
That's not even motherly. It's like Tony Robbins is now saying that stuff, he's adopted it, he's the mother of all personal developments. There it is.
09:47 - Speaker 2
He merely adopted. The dark Mothers were born in it.
09:49 - Speaker 1
Oh, my gosh, I just rewatched that, the Batman movie. Yeah, you know.
09:55 - Speaker 2
I lived in the dark, exactly you adopted.
09:58 - Speaker 1
the dark Bane is talking about that. It's a long plane ride. Go ahead.
10:02 - Speaker 2
Anyway, my point is Tony Robbins is Batman and your mother is Bane. There we go.
10:10
The point is that old adage that your mom said of show me who your friends are and I'll show you who are, is true, because you will try to fit in with them. So if there are things that you want to accomplish, the hack for this is if there's things that you want to accomplish, if there's things you want to get in better shape. This is the value that a personal trainer provides. They are professionally motivated to keep you focused. So surround yourself with the people that are trying to accomplish the same goals and you will be much more likely to get to that place. As opposed to Staying with a friend who loves and like. There's nothing wrong with loving video games and sitting on the couch right, that's great. But if that's what you, if that's what your person, your, your closest friends, are about, that's what you're gonna be about whether you realize it and if your whole posse is that you're never gonna climb out of it Never.
10:59
So this is why you gotta you gotta surround yourself with people who want the same things you do.
11:02 - Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah again. So it is possible, it is absolutely possible to catch laziness, you catch anything or productivity from another person.
11:13
So I was, I was just out on the road and went to, you know, went to Nashville. I was at this great convention, which I love, it's a you know, a lot of Faith-based ministries and stuff like that. I mean, it's just really. I've been there many times national religious broadcasters convention, a lot of great broadcasters, a lot of old, old friends of mine and I ran into a whole bunch of people who were just talking about hey, what are you doing now, what's going on? But whatever, whatever I'm in a restaurant or whatever and there's somebody waiting on me always say hey, what's your what's?
11:39 - Speaker 2
your goal.
11:41 - Speaker 1
Right, I said, connie hates this.
11:42
You know, what's your five-year plan? And more often than not, I find find that Gen Z, even Gen X which is, you know, your age group and millennials. They're not. They're going to community colleges and they're going to trade schools. And it's fascinating because they, you know the the Typical college education is so expensive. So let me just give you some of the data on this. According to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center, community college enrollment is up significantly After it fell a while during the pandemic. So the trend spotters are saying that students see community college as quote a means of getting a job without all the debt of a four-year degree. I sort of just said that Doug Shapiro was an executive director of a national school. Doug Shapiro was an executive director of a national student clearinghouse and he says community colleges offer Programs here it is that have a direct link to the workforce.
12:36 - Speaker 2
So there's there's that.
12:38
There are the professional degrees that community colleges offer, that most four-year colleges don't, because they're really more focused on getting you into bachelor degrees and into graduate programs.
12:48
And that, and that's great If you know what you want to do, if you know that you want to be a chef, going and getting a color culinary degree from a from from a community college is a great way to Kickstart that, that goal in life. The other thing is if you are already an intrinsically motivated person, the problem the problem Community colleges is because if you are somebody that wants to, that wants to go to grad school, that wants to become a professional in a certain area, it can be Demotivating because you're not around people who are directly associated with that goal yet. But if you know what you want to do, you can do all of your GE's. For, you know, 11 bucks a credit instead of 11,000 dollars a credit, you save a lot of money those first two years when you would be doing your general education classes at a four-year institution anyway, Right and and you may discover that that's not what you want to do.
13:33
In that process, you may, you know, you may take biology and realize, gosh, I really don't want to be a doctor and it only cost you 50 bucks instead of 50,000 to realize that you don't want to be a doctor. Yeah, so that's the huge benefit of it. The downside, obviously, is like if you do have these bigger professional goals, you're not networking with those people in the same way. Conversely, if you know exactly what you want to be and you know like you, just in your heart of hearts, like, this is what I want to do. There are tons of four year programs that can be mixed with community college credits and you can build your degree in a sort of a hybrid way.
14:10 - Speaker 1
Yeah, and you have to be careful what the world says to you about what you're supposed to do or what your parents right you gotta figure out what works, what you have faith for, so to speak.
14:18
It's very similar to when I was growing up and again, I was born in the 1950s and if you didn't, if you're a musician, right, if you didn't read music, if you couldn't read music, you didn't take those kinds of lessons. And somebody said, well, I play by ear, you play by ear, right. And now today, teachers will teach. You know, before they even teach reading sheet music, they will teach okay, here's how to get to playing a song and being able to hear the music like a jazz musician. So I think there was a lot of many, for many years, for me anyway, there was a lot of pressure of where are you going to college, not what do you want to do with your life, but where are you going to college.
14:59 - Speaker 2
Right? Well, because you so, I think. Look, the world has been reordered in so many ways, particularly I'm thinking of the Americas and the Western world as it relates to education, where so many jobs require college degrees, but also the college degree is no longer the immediate free pass into the middle class that it once was right. So, and you have plenty of people, who you have plenty of institutions, you know big corporations that some require for your degree and some really just want to see how good you are at, whatever you do.
15:34
A famous obviously you know famous people like like Mark Zuckerberg, who left the most prestigious college in America to start Facebook. He leaves Harvard to start Facebook.
15:45 - Speaker 1
That precedent for this generation is a different one from your generation, Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs too right, Steve Jobs, let's read college. I think, even Walter Cronkite, you know. I mean yeah.
15:54 - Speaker 2
Who famously endowed the Arizona State University School of Journalism.
16:00 - Speaker 1
Most famous, you know, broadcaster in history and types with two fingers or typed. Some of the biggest majors, by the way, to close this out at two-year institutions, include computer sciences, of course, mechanic and repair technologies, culinary services, and there's stuff you know, the trade stuff like. I mean even musicians that I play with. You know some of them. They go to USC or you're interlocking in those places, but the other, what's the place in Boston that all of the all the oh, Berkeley College.
16:27
Berkeley College. They not only teach you how to play your instrument and read music, of course, if you want, but also how to the business of yeah, well, whichever, because it's a different world now.
16:37 - Speaker 2
You don't. You no longer. You don't just sit at Capitol Records and write songs that have artists come through and buy your songs. It's a different world.
16:43 - Speaker 1
Now, sure is Okay. Just ahead, we're going to share a few awesome conversation starters for you, including. This is where Gib eats, so to speak. I don't mean exactly at this place, but this kind of content. I'm going to tell you why the Toronto Zoo is asking visitors to stop showing the Gorillaz videos on their phones. Become a big problem. We'll tell you about it, and we'll tell you why farmers are purchasing drones that resemble hawks and vultures.
17:11 - Speaker 2
Oh, I have an idea about that.
17:13 - Speaker 1
But first this yeah, yeah, john Tash, here with Gib Gerard and Gib, the Toronto Zoo is asking visitors, pleading with them to stop showing the Gorillaz videos on their phones.
17:42 - Speaker 2
Let me take you through this.
17:43 - Speaker 1
This, like I said, this will be a conversation starter. Hey, did you know that the zoo posted signs outside the Gorilla enclosure asking visitors not to use their phones to show photos or videos to the Gorillaz? The reasoning is quote some content can be upsetting and affect their relationships and behavior within their family and yeah so.
18:02
Holly Ross is a behavioral husbandry supervisor at the zoo. She says keepers want to ensure the animals lives remain as natural as possible. They want the Gorillaz to be able to be Gorillaz. They do not want them exposed to TikTok or YouTube in particular. That's another quote. Officials said a gorilla named Nasir has been showing a particular interest in the videos on visitors phones. The zoo's website states, quote Nasir, a 14 year old gorilla, is fascinated by videos and screen time dominates his life.
18:32 - Speaker 2
Gorillaz, they're just like us, right.
18:35
Exactly the same. Look. First of all, this is why I mean this Gorillas are very similar to us in so many different ways and this is why I try to keep my kids off of screen time as much as possible, because they do. They dominate your life and, by the way, I say this as a total hypocrite, I'm on a screen all the time but it dominates your life and it's not how our brains are meant to operate, and obviously we can see it so much more clearly with these animals that have a smaller prefrontal cortex than we do or unable to regulate their behavior in the same way. So they are going we're going to see the damage that this is doing to the brain much more clearly in these gorillas. So, yeah, but also, I was thinking about who's showing the gorilla, who's show the gorilla the video in the first place, I've seen it, were they?
19:19 - Speaker 1
just? I've seen it at the LA Zoo and I saw the people I saw doing. It was one of those big giant iPad pros. So it's like real to the gorilla.
19:28 - Speaker 2
I mean, it's not like it's this tiny little thing.
19:30 - Speaker 1
It's like, oh my gosh, look at that dog, look at these splits.
19:33 - Speaker 2
It's the monolith from 2001,. A space Odyssey Exactly. They're going to make them sentient. We left again.
19:41 - Speaker 1
You can show the young monkeys, not, just not the gorilla.
19:44 - Speaker 2
Don't show it. No, don't do anything. You're at the zoo, but this is the same. You don't need the screen at the zoo.
19:49 - Speaker 1
The same thing as the advice we gave on the radio show. I mean every now, but every four months. We give this advice, and that is do not take selfies with the bison or whatever those things are at the Yellowstone. People just get in. There's pictures in slow motion of people being thrown up in the air there was a kid.
20:05
She was fine by the way she ended up being fine that one when she's launched like 10 feet 20 feet in the air and then it's like people who in Canada, who they want to get out and say hi to the mooses, my mooses, I think it's just moose Moose, OK, Because in the snow they have salt on their car and the moose just sits there for like an hour and just licks the car.
20:25 - Speaker 2
You have to wait for that to go by. So animals have certain human qualities, but they're also still wild animals. So, just don't show. Put the iPad away. You're already at the zoo. What's more interesting on the iPad?
20:41 - Speaker 1
Speaking of animals, let's switch on to birds. So, and the bees? People who are reporting on this are calling it the 21st Century Scarecrow. Now, before I give you the details on this and it has the word drone in it when I was a kid, my parents I've mentioned this before my parents dropped me off at my grandparents who lived in rural North Carolina on a farm, and Percy was my, and I can't even remember my grandmother's name.
21:14 - Speaker 2
Oh no.
21:14 - Speaker 1
I will in just a minute. But Percy put me to work on the farm and my job was and this is like an eight or nine year old at one point was to sit by the watermelon patch and shoot a shotgun into the air to keep the crows away from eating all of the watermelon.
21:35 - Speaker 2
That is, and the image of a nine year old with a shotgun.
21:40 - Speaker 1
Well, it was hard because I had to stand up against a tree so that the shotgun didn't knock me over.
21:46
So I got this pain in my back, still to this day, of being smashed and sitting with the recall of the shotgun. So, anyway, farmers have been fighting this for the longest time. Crows any of these birds? So drones, now built to look like birds of prey. This is great. They manufactured these things. They're being used by farmers and airports and restaurants and hotels, because we've been to the hotels where they have falcons that just fly around To keep the seagulls from pooping on everything.
22:17
Yeah so pigeons, seagulls, crows, other birds. They keep them from pooping and nesting or stealing food. Some of the drone hawks also have lasers built in. It's a way to humanely scatter flocks before they eat all the crops. There's a company called the Drone Bird Company. They have a fleet of drones that look like birds of prey and some models. This sounds like Star Trek and even there was a. I think the Klingons was a bird of prey.
22:42 - Speaker 2
They flew around the bird of prey. That's the name of the Klingon ship. Yeah, exactly.
22:46 - Speaker 1
Some models even have flapping wings to simulate predators movements.
22:51 - Speaker 2
So part of the problem is that crows are really smart. I don't know if you're aware of how somebody crows. Yeah, they can work with tools they can make tools. They can make and they can be trained and they also have these communication where different flocks are actually able to learn and relay the information to another flock. So crows are really smart, the guy with his name is Eva.
23:11 - Speaker 1
I remember this person, eva. It's terrible, that's really. I'm glad we got there, thank you. Thank you, because I wouldn't have been able to go on, go ahead.
23:19 - Speaker 2
Anyway, crows are really smart, and so we've created an arms race with the crows of keeping them away from crops without actually just sitting there like you had to and shooting them. There's no other way to keep them off of the crops. So I've seen the story about the taxidermists who are taxidermying birds of prey and building drones into them as they taxidermy them for this exact reason, so that there's a realistic looking attack drone for the birds. It's incredible. This is the kind of sci-fi future that was never in a movie and should have been where we have these, these flying radio control birds dominating the landscape and and changing and changing the way that. This is the start. This should have been the start of Alfred Hitchcock's the birds. Yeah, they finally had enough of our drones and then they started attacking us.
24:12 - Speaker 1
Yeah, that's the. You know who's gonna do this for a living, so don't tell him about it.
24:16 - Speaker 2
It's your seven-year-old son, oh yeah, he would love to fly drones at birds. He would love to just, and he also, by the way, he would love to sit on the side next to a tree and shoot shotguns. So you know, let's not tell him any of these stories.
24:31 - Speaker 1
Okay, well, and let's not ever let him date, okay, so let's talk about it. I'm sorry, let's just talk about dating as a bad transition, but but yeah, gosh, how many times have we talked about? Yeah, it is dating they. There's now a television show Called a farmer wants a wife, right, there's all. They're all that. Dating apps are now very specific. They're even specific to To what what disease you have or what. How you're incapacitated. You know it's like. You know it's like men and women with bad backscom, yeah.
25:04
I mean it's you know there's, there's, there's silver seniors, calm, you know, it's all this stuff.
25:10 - Speaker 2
Yeah, you're just narrowing the dating pool for yourself. Thank you not competing with 20.
25:14 - Speaker 1
I could have said that just like that it would have been better. But now the latest is dating apps to connect fitness focused singles. This is a great idea. So dating experts are now telling us that people who share the same interests and fitness and health are more likely to make a good match. There's a psychology professor named Dr Teresa Di Donato who says this is a big number 83% of people who exercise regularly Want a partner who's equally 100% because when somebody shares your interest, you feel more comfortable with them.
25:41
And when you sweat near somebody you find attractive, you'll eat be even more attracted to them. Because, they say, when you're Physiologically stimulated during a workout, your brain can't tell the difference between the fast pulse of exercise and the fast pulse from a great kiss.
25:55 - Speaker 2
Wow, right. So look, look, if you want to, if you want to increase the intimacy in your relationship, workout together for sure, yeah, yeah, and also look, whatever your thing is, whether it's exercising or if it's. If it's, if it's Frisbee golf, I would say it's probably. There's probably more men in Frisbee golf, right, it's hard to find if you're. It's hard to find another woman, a woman to date if you're in the Frisbee golf. But if that's your thing, you want somebody you can share that with. So that is where that's where these specialized apps come in, and particularly if it's exercise, because exercise has a whole Umbrella of things associated with. It usually involves the way that you eat, the amount of time exercises a couple hours a day. If you're super into golf, you got you know, don't? You want to date somebody who's into golf? Yeah, there should be a golf dating website. You should have. You should have that option.
26:46 - Speaker 1
You know it's really funny is that? Is that thinking about this is that Gibbs Gibbs wife is Basically a world-class soccer player, now she's a, now she's a coach, and give us run several marathons. He, he played, it was the captain of the water polo team in in in college and and we went on vacation and the two of them played pickleball against each other, yes, fun and it was like watching Macon row versus Lendl I mean, it was like the only thing was missing was the throwing of the, of the, of the rack is.
27:15
I didn't stay long enough to see that. It was just so scary to me. So yeah, you guys are evenly matched, really.
27:21 - Speaker 2
It's. She's a way better athlete than I am, but yes, it is. But you do want somebody you can be active with right, yeah you don't want somebody who's like oh, I don't want to play. I don't want to play the pickleball. I don't want to get in the water, I just want to go and sit by it. Yes, don't have time for a kiss, that's all you do is work out to do the two of you will leave that there.
27:40 - Speaker 1
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27:57 - Speaker 2
We'll answer those we'll deal with that. Oh really, no, no, my dad. My dad just came back in my head if you leave a negative comment, We'll deal with you. Podcast. We will find you and we will. We will give you a firm talking to right by you.
28:11 - Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm sorry, I said that. And then also you can find us at on the website at testcom. We have courses there. I'm launching my new piano course soon. You can send us messages. You know all of that. Thank you for listening to the, to the podcast, and if there's anything you want to hear more about you, just let us know.
Welcome to the John Tesh podcast featuring Mr Gib Gerard, the ultimate wingman.
00:07 - Speaker 2
Ayo.
00:08 - Speaker 1
And please remember whenever you want to get in touch with us, if you want to take my piano course or get enrolled in our coaching program, it's all waiting for you on our website, https://tesh.com. We want to get right into some of the latest longevity advice. Gib, that is, as always, right. It's ridiculously simple. New research from the MD Kent Anderson Cancer Center very familiar with that place has found that getting plenty of— A little too familiar.
00:31 - Speaker 2
There you go there you go Uh-huh.
00:34 - Speaker 1
It has found that getting plenty of fiber in our diet will lower our mortality rate. So follow me here. It turns out eating vegetables, fruits, whole grains, any good fiber reduces the risk of developing diabetes, heart disease and arthritis. And the study found that cancer patients eating a high fiber diet were five times more likely to respond to immunotherapy.
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And the University of Michigan says healthy gut bacteria, that's the tipping point between health and disease and scientists say it all comes down to how fiber influences our gut health and helps feed that healthy bacteria we need. And you know I had a call with my oncologist, dr Christopher Logathetus, and he was telling Connie and I that most of the studies they're doing right now is how you can use the microbiome and the gut right to actually cure diseases.
01:24 - Speaker 2
It's, you know well, look, it's your body's balance of so many things, including your depression, by the way, A good microbiome.
01:32 - Speaker 1
My depression, or everybody's depression, one's depression? Sorry, I was using the club wheel. I mean, I guess I'm every now and then.
01:39 - Speaker 2
But including depression, because the microbiome is actually one of the major producers of serotonin. So, in addition to all of these other health benefits, when it comes to overall mortality you're also just going to feel better, your brain is going to be working better if you do this properly. So again, I don't know if this is a chicken or egg thing, you know, because usually people who are eating vegetables and eating well, they're doing better overall. But this could be just why the fiber, the vegetables and the fruit and the fiber are keeping your gut healthy, giving you the right microbiome you need. Even though the fiber itself does not grow the bacteria, it is the lattice work on which the good bacteria does grow. So you'll be better at absorbing nutrients, better at breaking down the food, even on your cheat day, if you're the rock right and you eat that giant thing of French toast on Sundays.
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When you have that French toast you're going to metabolize it better because your microbiome is going to.
02:35 - Speaker 1
Yeah, let me do a thing on mice here, and then I want to talk about prebiotics and probiotics, because I know you've studied this as well. So in the study from Michigan the scientists, they put mice on a low fiber diet. We're always dealing with the mice right Because they're a lot like us, especially their brains.
02:53 - Speaker 2
Yeah, they work their way up. Mice have certain characteristics that are good for testing before we get to humans.
03:00 - Speaker 1
And within just a couple of days, on a low fiber diet. This is the mice now. The mice developed chronic inflammation in their intestines and then, when the mice were put on a high fiber diet, their inflammation went back to normal, but apparently they had a lot of gas. I'm just kidding. I mean I made that part up.
03:16 - Speaker 2
When you first start fiber. If you're in a really low fiber processed food diet right now, when you first start, you will notice we'll call it gastric distress you will have, there will be an adaptation period, but on the other side of it you will be a lot healthier and a lot happier. You just have to get to the other side of that initial gastric distress right. If your body is used to cheeseburgers and all of a sudden you're having more zucchini, you're not going. There's going to be a. There's going to be a period of time where you adjust.
03:45 - Speaker 1
See, I wouldn't go from cheeseburgers to zucchini, I don't know, it's something else, apples maybe.
03:50 - Speaker 2
Okay, well, whatever, when you go from cheeseburgers to green leafy vegetables from a high fat processed food diet to green leafy vegetables. There is a period of adjustment.
04:01 - Speaker 1
So I mean bottom lining this from again from the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and if you've ever heard about this place or been it's cancer research city, I mean that's all they do is study cancer there. It's a cancer research university and what they're basically saying is that fiber really does help us, protect us and fight against cancer. Yeah, it also keeps the stuff from growing in you, like the polyps that turn into. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
04:27 - Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:27 - Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never done a lifestyle.
04:50 - Speaker 2
There's a world of easy sense that it اسан의.
05:01 - Speaker 1
We're in cheater die. We're not really productive, but great is. Yeah, I know, and you're not even looking at the stuff that's on my Kindle on my phone.
05:08
Yeah, I accidentally ordered the hard copy. Push the wrong button. Okay, here's what you do for more motivation and productivity. Every day, you commit to writing down your small wins, even if it's just one. So listen to this from the Harvard Business School. They say taking note of what you've accomplished will boost your confidence, increase motivation and boost your productivity all the things I just mentioned. And studies do show we tend to hang on to bad experiences longer than the good ones, even relationships. By the way, writing down something positive, though, especially by hand, it helps you remember. It's a lot to unpack here, gib. You can write it in a journal, you can write it on your phone, or even a text conversation with a friend. It all works. The study found that the more frequently listen, the more frequently people experience the sense of progress by writing down a small win, the more likely they were to be creatively productive in the long run. I mean, it really is.
06:04
It's the simple things right, but they did so much study, so many studies on this.
06:07 - Speaker 2
This is why I mean speaking of productivity books. This is why the making the bed thing works. This is why journaling is so popular and is such a good way of changing the way that your brain operates. Look, the smarter you are, the more ruminative you are, meaning the more you think about things over and over again, and the more likely you are to be ruminative, the more likely you are to think about the negative, like you were talking about. And when you think about the negative, you will.
06:33
You cannot help but manifest negative in your life, and that's not like woo spirituality. I just mean the more you're thinking negative thoughts, the more you will interact with people in a negative way and the more negativity will be in your life. It'll just be like that. If you can start to just take any win, any positive thing, and build on that, you will be happier. When you are happier, you will have more positive things happen and more people will interact with you in a positive way. And that's not even the woo spirituality side of things. That's just the facts of how interpersonal relationships work. So the best thing you can do for yourself in order to do that is to engage more of your brain by writing it out. And for me, when I physically write something, I use so much more of my brain. When I say physically write, I don't mean, I mean I get a pen and a piece of paper.
07:23
And I have this. We've interviewed him before. Michael Hyatt, I have this planner. It is it's quarterly, so it's annoying like it's annoying how many you have to buy in a year. But this planner, it has pages where at the end of every day every day is two pages long and at the end of the day you write something down a big win for the day and you can write out three wins. And at the end of every week you write out three wins for the week. It gets you thinking about accomplishing even the smallest thing. It doesn't have to be. You know I successfully completed the first open heart transplant from a fetal pig into a human. That doesn't have to be that. It can be something simple, as I had a great interaction with my grandmother today on the phone.
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Whatever that is it's just one positive thing. It will manifest itself into the rest of your life.
08:13 - Speaker 1
It's great Again, just reviewing. If you want to increase your motivation, productivity, I would say even happiness, based on what Gibba's saying here, you just every day commit to writing down your small wins, even if it's just one. Ok, as promised. Let's pose this question, is it? I love this kind of stuff.
08:32
Is it possible to catch laziness from another person? So, according to the National Institutes of Health, the answer is a big yes. For example, let's say you and your partner. Yeah, a simple example you plan to do your chores first thing on Saturday so you can enjoy the rest of your weekend. But if one of you sits down for coffee and says, ah, I just don't feel like doing anything today, the other one is, according to this study, likely to agree. The researchers say this is partly about wanting to fit in and partly about social influence bias quote unquote where people believe their attitudes and opinions should be similar to those of other people. The good news is here it is we can also be energized by another person's behavior, and we've seen this just when you and I go to the gym. I work out longer 100%.
09:17 - Speaker 2
If you work out with a buddy who is motivated to work out, you're going to work out harder and it will beget itself. So if you have that person that you both you decide you want to be motivated, together you can motivate each other. What's really annoying about this is that the old motherly adage you show me who your friends are, and I'll show you who you are.
09:38 - Speaker 1
That's not even motherly. It's like Tony Robbins is now saying that stuff, he's adopted it, he's the mother of all personal developments. There it is.
09:47 - Speaker 2
He merely adopted. The dark Mothers were born in it.
09:49 - Speaker 1
Oh, my gosh, I just rewatched that, the Batman movie. Yeah, you know.
09:55 - Speaker 2
I lived in the dark, exactly you adopted.
09:58 - Speaker 1
the dark Bane is talking about that. It's a long plane ride. Go ahead.
10:02 - Speaker 2
Anyway, my point is Tony Robbins is Batman and your mother is Bane. There we go.
10:10
The point is that old adage that your mom said of show me who your friends are and I'll show you who are, is true, because you will try to fit in with them. So if there are things that you want to accomplish, the hack for this is if there's things that you want to accomplish, if there's things you want to get in better shape. This is the value that a personal trainer provides. They are professionally motivated to keep you focused. So surround yourself with the people that are trying to accomplish the same goals and you will be much more likely to get to that place. As opposed to Staying with a friend who loves and like. There's nothing wrong with loving video games and sitting on the couch right, that's great. But if that's what you, if that's what your person, your, your closest friends, are about, that's what you're gonna be about whether you realize it and if your whole posse is that you're never gonna climb out of it Never.
10:59
So this is why you gotta you gotta surround yourself with people who want the same things you do.
11:02 - Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah again. So it is possible, it is absolutely possible to catch laziness, you catch anything or productivity from another person.
11:13
So I was, I was just out on the road and went to, you know, went to Nashville. I was at this great convention, which I love, it's a you know, a lot of Faith-based ministries and stuff like that. I mean, it's just really. I've been there many times national religious broadcasters convention, a lot of great broadcasters, a lot of old, old friends of mine and I ran into a whole bunch of people who were just talking about hey, what are you doing now, what's going on? But whatever, whatever I'm in a restaurant or whatever and there's somebody waiting on me always say hey, what's your what's?
11:39 - Speaker 2
your goal.
11:41 - Speaker 1
Right, I said, connie hates this.
11:42
You know, what's your five-year plan? And more often than not, I find find that Gen Z, even Gen X which is, you know, your age group and millennials. They're not. They're going to community colleges and they're going to trade schools. And it's fascinating because they, you know the the Typical college education is so expensive. So let me just give you some of the data on this. According to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center, community college enrollment is up significantly After it fell a while during the pandemic. So the trend spotters are saying that students see community college as quote a means of getting a job without all the debt of a four-year degree. I sort of just said that Doug Shapiro was an executive director of a national school. Doug Shapiro was an executive director of a national student clearinghouse and he says community colleges offer Programs here it is that have a direct link to the workforce.
12:36 - Speaker 2
So there's there's that.
12:38
There are the professional degrees that community colleges offer, that most four-year colleges don't, because they're really more focused on getting you into bachelor degrees and into graduate programs.
12:48
And that, and that's great If you know what you want to do, if you know that you want to be a chef, going and getting a color culinary degree from a from from a community college is a great way to Kickstart that, that goal in life. The other thing is if you are already an intrinsically motivated person, the problem the problem Community colleges is because if you are somebody that wants to, that wants to go to grad school, that wants to become a professional in a certain area, it can be Demotivating because you're not around people who are directly associated with that goal yet. But if you know what you want to do, you can do all of your GE's. For, you know, 11 bucks a credit instead of 11,000 dollars a credit, you save a lot of money those first two years when you would be doing your general education classes at a four-year institution anyway, Right and and you may discover that that's not what you want to do.
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In that process, you may, you know, you may take biology and realize, gosh, I really don't want to be a doctor and it only cost you 50 bucks instead of 50,000 to realize that you don't want to be a doctor. Yeah, so that's the huge benefit of it. The downside, obviously, is like if you do have these bigger professional goals, you're not networking with those people in the same way. Conversely, if you know exactly what you want to be and you know like you, just in your heart of hearts, like, this is what I want to do. There are tons of four year programs that can be mixed with community college credits and you can build your degree in a sort of a hybrid way.
14:10 - Speaker 1
Yeah, and you have to be careful what the world says to you about what you're supposed to do or what your parents right you gotta figure out what works, what you have faith for, so to speak.
14:18
It's very similar to when I was growing up and again, I was born in the 1950s and if you didn't, if you're a musician, right, if you didn't read music, if you couldn't read music, you didn't take those kinds of lessons. And somebody said, well, I play by ear, you play by ear, right. And now today, teachers will teach. You know, before they even teach reading sheet music, they will teach okay, here's how to get to playing a song and being able to hear the music like a jazz musician. So I think there was a lot of many, for many years, for me anyway, there was a lot of pressure of where are you going to college, not what do you want to do with your life, but where are you going to college.
14:59 - Speaker 2
Right? Well, because you so, I think. Look, the world has been reordered in so many ways, particularly I'm thinking of the Americas and the Western world as it relates to education, where so many jobs require college degrees, but also the college degree is no longer the immediate free pass into the middle class that it once was right. So, and you have plenty of people, who you have plenty of institutions, you know big corporations that some require for your degree and some really just want to see how good you are at, whatever you do.
15:34
A famous obviously you know famous people like like Mark Zuckerberg, who left the most prestigious college in America to start Facebook. He leaves Harvard to start Facebook.
15:45 - Speaker 1
That precedent for this generation is a different one from your generation, Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs too right, Steve Jobs, let's read college. I think, even Walter Cronkite, you know. I mean yeah.
15:54 - Speaker 2
Who famously endowed the Arizona State University School of Journalism.
16:00 - Speaker 1
Most famous, you know, broadcaster in history and types with two fingers or typed. Some of the biggest majors, by the way, to close this out at two-year institutions, include computer sciences, of course, mechanic and repair technologies, culinary services, and there's stuff you know, the trade stuff like. I mean even musicians that I play with. You know some of them. They go to USC or you're interlocking in those places, but the other, what's the place in Boston that all of the all the oh, Berkeley College.
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Berkeley College. They not only teach you how to play your instrument and read music, of course, if you want, but also how to the business of yeah, well, whichever, because it's a different world now.
16:37 - Speaker 2
You don't. You no longer. You don't just sit at Capitol Records and write songs that have artists come through and buy your songs. It's a different world.
16:43 - Speaker 1
Now, sure is Okay. Just ahead, we're going to share a few awesome conversation starters for you, including. This is where Gib eats, so to speak. I don't mean exactly at this place, but this kind of content. I'm going to tell you why the Toronto Zoo is asking visitors to stop showing the Gorillaz videos on their phones. Become a big problem. We'll tell you about it, and we'll tell you why farmers are purchasing drones that resemble hawks and vultures.
17:11 - Speaker 2
Oh, I have an idea about that.
17:13 - Speaker 1
But first this yeah, yeah, john Tash, here with Gib Gerard and Gib, the Toronto Zoo is asking visitors, pleading with them to stop showing the Gorillaz videos on their phones.
17:42 - Speaker 2
Let me take you through this.
17:43 - Speaker 1
This, like I said, this will be a conversation starter. Hey, did you know that the zoo posted signs outside the Gorilla enclosure asking visitors not to use their phones to show photos or videos to the Gorillaz? The reasoning is quote some content can be upsetting and affect their relationships and behavior within their family and yeah so.
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Holly Ross is a behavioral husbandry supervisor at the zoo. She says keepers want to ensure the animals lives remain as natural as possible. They want the Gorillaz to be able to be Gorillaz. They do not want them exposed to TikTok or YouTube in particular. That's another quote. Officials said a gorilla named Nasir has been showing a particular interest in the videos on visitors phones. The zoo's website states, quote Nasir, a 14 year old gorilla, is fascinated by videos and screen time dominates his life.
18:32 - Speaker 2
Gorillaz, they're just like us, right.
18:35
Exactly the same. Look. First of all, this is why I mean this Gorillas are very similar to us in so many different ways and this is why I try to keep my kids off of screen time as much as possible, because they do. They dominate your life and, by the way, I say this as a total hypocrite, I'm on a screen all the time but it dominates your life and it's not how our brains are meant to operate, and obviously we can see it so much more clearly with these animals that have a smaller prefrontal cortex than we do or unable to regulate their behavior in the same way. So they are going we're going to see the damage that this is doing to the brain much more clearly in these gorillas. So, yeah, but also, I was thinking about who's showing the gorilla, who's show the gorilla the video in the first place, I've seen it, were they?
19:19 - Speaker 1
just? I've seen it at the LA Zoo and I saw the people I saw doing. It was one of those big giant iPad pros. So it's like real to the gorilla.
19:28 - Speaker 2
I mean, it's not like it's this tiny little thing.
19:30 - Speaker 1
It's like, oh my gosh, look at that dog, look at these splits.
19:33 - Speaker 2
It's the monolith from 2001,. A space Odyssey Exactly. They're going to make them sentient. We left again.
19:41 - Speaker 1
You can show the young monkeys, not, just not the gorilla.
19:44 - Speaker 2
Don't show it. No, don't do anything. You're at the zoo, but this is the same. You don't need the screen at the zoo.
19:49 - Speaker 1
The same thing as the advice we gave on the radio show. I mean every now, but every four months. We give this advice, and that is do not take selfies with the bison or whatever those things are at the Yellowstone. People just get in. There's pictures in slow motion of people being thrown up in the air there was a kid.
20:05
She was fine by the way she ended up being fine that one when she's launched like 10 feet 20 feet in the air and then it's like people who in Canada, who they want to get out and say hi to the mooses, my mooses, I think it's just moose Moose, OK, Because in the snow they have salt on their car and the moose just sits there for like an hour and just licks the car.
20:25 - Speaker 2
You have to wait for that to go by. So animals have certain human qualities, but they're also still wild animals. So, just don't show. Put the iPad away. You're already at the zoo. What's more interesting on the iPad?
20:41 - Speaker 1
Speaking of animals, let's switch on to birds. So, and the bees? People who are reporting on this are calling it the 21st Century Scarecrow. Now, before I give you the details on this and it has the word drone in it when I was a kid, my parents I've mentioned this before my parents dropped me off at my grandparents who lived in rural North Carolina on a farm, and Percy was my, and I can't even remember my grandmother's name.
21:14 - Speaker 2
Oh no.
21:14 - Speaker 1
I will in just a minute. But Percy put me to work on the farm and my job was and this is like an eight or nine year old at one point was to sit by the watermelon patch and shoot a shotgun into the air to keep the crows away from eating all of the watermelon.
21:35 - Speaker 2
That is, and the image of a nine year old with a shotgun.
21:40 - Speaker 1
Well, it was hard because I had to stand up against a tree so that the shotgun didn't knock me over.
21:46
So I got this pain in my back, still to this day, of being smashed and sitting with the recall of the shotgun. So, anyway, farmers have been fighting this for the longest time. Crows any of these birds? So drones, now built to look like birds of prey. This is great. They manufactured these things. They're being used by farmers and airports and restaurants and hotels, because we've been to the hotels where they have falcons that just fly around To keep the seagulls from pooping on everything.
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Yeah so pigeons, seagulls, crows, other birds. They keep them from pooping and nesting or stealing food. Some of the drone hawks also have lasers built in. It's a way to humanely scatter flocks before they eat all the crops. There's a company called the Drone Bird Company. They have a fleet of drones that look like birds of prey and some models. This sounds like Star Trek and even there was a. I think the Klingons was a bird of prey.
22:42 - Speaker 2
They flew around the bird of prey. That's the name of the Klingon ship. Yeah, exactly.
22:46 - Speaker 1
Some models even have flapping wings to simulate predators movements.
22:51 - Speaker 2
So part of the problem is that crows are really smart. I don't know if you're aware of how somebody crows. Yeah, they can work with tools they can make tools. They can make and they can be trained and they also have these communication where different flocks are actually able to learn and relay the information to another flock. So crows are really smart, the guy with his name is Eva.
23:11 - Speaker 1
I remember this person, eva. It's terrible, that's really. I'm glad we got there, thank you. Thank you, because I wouldn't have been able to go on, go ahead.
23:19 - Speaker 2
Anyway, crows are really smart, and so we've created an arms race with the crows of keeping them away from crops without actually just sitting there like you had to and shooting them. There's no other way to keep them off of the crops. So I've seen the story about the taxidermists who are taxidermying birds of prey and building drones into them as they taxidermy them for this exact reason, so that there's a realistic looking attack drone for the birds. It's incredible. This is the kind of sci-fi future that was never in a movie and should have been where we have these, these flying radio control birds dominating the landscape and and changing and changing the way that. This is the start. This should have been the start of Alfred Hitchcock's the birds. Yeah, they finally had enough of our drones and then they started attacking us.
24:12 - Speaker 1
Yeah, that's the. You know who's gonna do this for a living, so don't tell him about it.
24:16 - Speaker 2
It's your seven-year-old son, oh yeah, he would love to fly drones at birds. He would love to just, and he also, by the way, he would love to sit on the side next to a tree and shoot shotguns. So you know, let's not tell him any of these stories.
24:31 - Speaker 1
Okay, well, and let's not ever let him date, okay, so let's talk about it. I'm sorry, let's just talk about dating as a bad transition, but but yeah, gosh, how many times have we talked about? Yeah, it is dating they. There's now a television show Called a farmer wants a wife, right, there's all. They're all that. Dating apps are now very specific. They're even specific to To what what disease you have or what. How you're incapacitated. You know it's like. You know it's like men and women with bad backscom, yeah.
25:04
I mean it's you know there's, there's, there's silver seniors, calm, you know, it's all this stuff.
25:10 - Speaker 2
Yeah, you're just narrowing the dating pool for yourself. Thank you not competing with 20.
25:14 - Speaker 1
I could have said that just like that it would have been better. But now the latest is dating apps to connect fitness focused singles. This is a great idea. So dating experts are now telling us that people who share the same interests and fitness and health are more likely to make a good match. There's a psychology professor named Dr Teresa Di Donato who says this is a big number 83% of people who exercise regularly Want a partner who's equally 100% because when somebody shares your interest, you feel more comfortable with them.
25:41
And when you sweat near somebody you find attractive, you'll eat be even more attracted to them. Because, they say, when you're Physiologically stimulated during a workout, your brain can't tell the difference between the fast pulse of exercise and the fast pulse from a great kiss.
25:55 - Speaker 2
Wow, right. So look, look, if you want to, if you want to increase the intimacy in your relationship, workout together for sure, yeah, yeah, and also look, whatever your thing is, whether it's exercising or if it's. If it's, if it's Frisbee golf, I would say it's probably. There's probably more men in Frisbee golf, right, it's hard to find if you're. It's hard to find another woman, a woman to date if you're in the Frisbee golf. But if that's your thing, you want somebody you can share that with. So that is where that's where these specialized apps come in, and particularly if it's exercise, because exercise has a whole Umbrella of things associated with. It usually involves the way that you eat, the amount of time exercises a couple hours a day. If you're super into golf, you got you know, don't? You want to date somebody who's into golf? Yeah, there should be a golf dating website. You should have. You should have that option.
26:46 - Speaker 1
You know it's really funny is that? Is that thinking about this is that Gibbs Gibbs wife is Basically a world-class soccer player, now she's a, now she's a coach, and give us run several marathons. He, he played, it was the captain of the water polo team in in in college and and we went on vacation and the two of them played pickleball against each other, yes, fun and it was like watching Macon row versus Lendl I mean, it was like the only thing was missing was the throwing of the, of the, of the rack is.
27:15
I didn't stay long enough to see that. It was just so scary to me. So yeah, you guys are evenly matched, really.
27:21 - Speaker 2
It's. She's a way better athlete than I am, but yes, it is. But you do want somebody you can be active with right, yeah you don't want somebody who's like oh, I don't want to play. I don't want to play the pickleball. I don't want to get in the water, I just want to go and sit by it. Yes, don't have time for a kiss, that's all you do is work out to do the two of you will leave that there.
27:40 - Speaker 1
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27:57 - Speaker 2
We'll answer those we'll deal with that. Oh really, no, no, my dad. My dad just came back in my head if you leave a negative comment, We'll deal with you. Podcast. We will find you and we will. We will give you a firm talking to right by you.
28:11 - Speaker 1
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